[10], Andrew Haines and Peter Hendy, the current CEO and chairman of Network Rail respectively, are overseeing the establishment of GBR. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. This competition aimed to identify a place with a rich railway heritage, strong links to the national network and significant public support, while creating a great opportunity to promote the location as the proud home for the start of a new era in Britains railways. There was a return of some regional schemes: the Western Region turned out some Mk1 sets for named expresses in chocolate/cream, similar to that used by the GWR before nationalisation. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. In May 2022, the Government announced proposed legislation to modernise rail services and improve reliability for passengers. Thanks. I do also like the theory that these regions they mention will be named after old railway companies. It's already been seen with the government controlled LNER and GWR franchises for example. The attachments illustrate this. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . But such an approach offers a bleak long-term outlook for the UK. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Some franchise brand names are good, such as Trans Pennine Express, but perhaps those longer distance brands might be lost to one all encompassing GBR brand. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. Plus what is one persons opinion of a great livery will be different to the next. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? GBR is not quite the same, so they no doubt want it to be seen as distinct; plus, it may not even be possible to call it BR, there might be legal implications (just a guess). The rebranding of British Railways to British Rail on 1 January 1965 was coupled with the introduction of an entirely new national livery. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. The new livery was used with the introduction of the Hastings Line electrification in 1986 to promote new electric trains on that line. Brunswick Green. Northern and TPE split into separate Northwest and Northeast brands. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. The livery was carried on the rolling stock, but also on a number of locomotives which were dedicated to mail and parcels traffic, mainly of Classes 47 and 90. for some form of co-branding. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. At present, train operators get to decorate their rolling stock in their own colours. Avanti merged with LNWR to form a GNWR brand. The final decision was to be made later in 2022,[16] but the result has not been announced as of February 2023. RM CN0PKR - Britania 70000 in British Railways Livery at West Somerset Railway, Minehead, UK RM C1N4A7 - Totnes Littlehempston Station with Goods Vehicle in authentic 'British Railways' Livery, Totnes, Devon, England, United Kingdom RM ER5JCR - 46138 Royal Scot Class Steam Locomotive - British Railways L One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. All other brands (SE, Southern, Thameslink, SWR, GWR, TfW, Merseyrail, Overground, Crossrail, GA, c2c, Scotrail) remain as they are. https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. Clearly "Great British Railways" does include a bit of "retro" in the manner than gWr does, for example. Suffice to say, an actual English nationalist would not be passing controversial legislation to enable Westminster to spend even more money on Northern Ireland, as this Government is. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. Someone will design a great livery in the future and someone else will design a crap livery. There is also a British Standard paint colour BS381C 114 called Rail Blue which was introduced in 1964. Please can you explain the advantage of such a nationwide livery? This was later modified for locomotives allocated to the Civil Engineer's department to include a yellow stripe on the upper bodyside, the resulting livery being known as "Dutch" due to its similarity to the corporate colours of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen.[18]. From 1966 until withdrawal, Pullman Coaches were also painted in the reversal of the normal coach livery, with the blue and grey areas transposed. JavaScript is disabled. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. Infrastructure, passenger, and freight services were separated at that time. White letters on a navy background is the way to go. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. We use cookies. Dedicated station management teams will be created within regional divisions of GBR to manage stations and land. Then theres the question of livery. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. It looks like BR. The Southern Region types worked mostly on the Charing Cross / Cannon Street - Hastings via Battle / Dover and Ramsgate routes and on the Victoria / London Bridge - Brighton / Littlehampton / Hastings via Eastbourne routes. Withdrawn 01001 is just visible at the rear. Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. Home Forums into flashy advertising campaigns, the appearance of the showrooms (and their digital counterpart, the website), and the styling of their vehicles? The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. Other examples are available Once they'd ditched single colour liveries, they didn't really do anything that wasn't ", One can only hope for a Sectorised return to NSE. There are conflicting view on Britain versus Great Britain. The special saloons and a few other special coaches were also repainted in chocolate and cream but regular former GWR coaches carried maroon. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. Why could GBR franchises not do the same? Why do you show the double-arrow logo *and* the words "Great British Railways"? But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. JavaScript is disabled. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. Erm are you sure about that? [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. In 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted. More middle days; they were improving quite a bit in the 1990s. It still has to look good decades from now. 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. 1948 -. Great Britain's railway system was built by private companies, but it was nationalised by the Transport Act 1947 and was run from then onwards by British Railways (which traded as British Rail from 1965) until privatisation, which was begun in 1994 and completed in 1997. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. The 4REP and 3/4TC EMUs were a notable oddity, initially receiving all-over Rail Blue despite being express corridor stock. But it invites an obvious question: what is to be done about it? It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. I would rather that operations were branded similar to how they are now, but with a few changes compared with the existing TOC areas as follows: Chiltern Railways renamed as Chiltern & Oxbridge, with brand used on all planned EWR services in addition to those from London Marylebone. But the move still opens up some possibilities which Michael Gove and the rest of the Governments Union strategy team should consider. It isnt hard to believe that there may be some truth to the suggestion that Johnson would be less cavalier in his treatment of Ulster if it returned even a handful of Government MPs. It does because it's public perception. Budgets and delivery will be held at the local level as well as at the national level. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. [citation needed]. [16] As well as rolling stock and multiple units, a number of Class 47 and Class 50 locomotives dedicated to Network SouthEast passenger services were painted in this livery. GW 1 1 Great British Railways Why? I suspect not many. Recognising this, the Plan for Rail recommended the development of a 30-year strategy to determine how best the railways can support Britain in the future. We will probably get something like this Shorthand and in general parlance yes, but Great British Railways will be a brand that the DfT will want to get out there sooner rather than later, even if it is just a vinyl on top of existing TOC names. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. [3] Goods (freight) services are operated by a number of companies, the descendants of those created during the 1990s privatisation. I really quite like that now. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. The British Isles is a the collection of European islands consisting of Great Britain, the island of Ireland, Isle of Man and the northern islands that are part of Scotland. In the early years the colour faded quite badly, becoming lighter and paler with time although this problem had been overcome by the late 1970s. Job done. A High Speed Train power car (loco) and coach in InterCity swallow livery. The train is operated by the Steam Dreams Rail Co. Mayflower built in 1948, is one of two surviving B1 Class locomotives and painted in distinctive British Railways apple green livery. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. The distinctive angular shape of the HST power cars did not lend itself to applying yellow on the leading face, so the yellow was wrapped around and extended along the side of each power car, although the coaches retained the usual Rail Blue coaching stock livery. Variants to the national brand will be developed to refect the English regions, Scotland and Wales, while emphasising that the railway is one network serving the whole of Great Britain. A nod to the past in the liveries would be nice like with the modern GWR too. Introduced in 1965, and also known as "Monastral Blue", the colour was defined by British Rail standards BR28/6001 (Airless spray finish) and BR28/5321 (Brush finish). Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding . No complaints really over the Rail Alphabet, I even like seeing it on old BR signage that still exists here and there. A commonly mistake to make, but one that can easily upset the locals! Old does not necessarily = bad. Multiple units were also generally green, although this tended to be a lighter and bluer shade compared to the colour used on steam and diesel locomotives. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have. GBR is currently running a competition to find a town or city outside London to host its headquarters. [9][10] Several other Class 47 locomotives, some Class 31s, and even some DMU cabs, were subsequently also painted by Stratford with grey roofs, the variation becoming something of a trademark for the depot. It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding of trains and stations carried out under the privatised system, so the branding will be introduced alongside other improvements. Much closer to what I was meaning (thanks. Most of the coverage has focused on this. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. The current lot is an absolute mess. I think there would be huge advantages of a standard livery and branding across the Britain, in saving money and presenting a unified product to the customer. Finsbury Park. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. It's the name of the island ffs. [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. I'm inclined to disagree. But thats the insidious appeal of nationalism: it willalwaysbe easier, in the short term, to spurn complicating national attachments in favour of tacking to local winds and making off with as much cash as you can lay your hands on. If Scotland leaves the UK it must become British Rail as Britain is defined as just England & Wales! [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. Why are so many cars driven around dirty with the user making no attempt to keep them clean? It may not display this or other websites correctly. The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. Read more about them in our, National HQ competition for Great British Railways. [7], The reorganisation does not affect Northern Ireland, where the railway is already operated by the vertically integrated and already wholly state-owned Northern Ireland Railways. Last week Doug Beattie, the newly-installed leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, hit out at Boris Johnson. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. The XP64 train was used to test technology and carriage arrangements for the planned Mark 2 coaches. Due to the small number of units repainted it was common to see trains with two or more units in different liveries. This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. In terms of changing the background colour - I was going to go with a navy blue, but then it wouldn't integrate with any part of the design system I had in my head, so I opted not to. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It's the name of the island ffs. If you run across land borders you're going to get it. Privacy Noticeand Website Accessibility. Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway . The purpose of this call for evidence was to develop an understanding of how much of the current and future market demand for freight could be met by rail, and the role rail can play in the nations supply chains. I quite like that version; I think I might like it even more if the black and the red were blue instead though. This grey panel finished just short of the end of the coach leaving a small amount of Rail Blue which then continued round onto the end of the coach. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . Maybe a "way out" arrow similar to Thameslink's station signage could make it more exciting, while also adding a bit more functionality? Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The first and second MKC signs are pretty classy and look good. I can only see negatives. However, these bodies will be required to coordinate with GBR to deliver a single national rail network, including one website and app, as well as following national branding and passenger standards. [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. You are using an out of date browser. This idea often seems to pop its head up. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Interesting mock up doublearrow on Twitter just posted: What problem is this supposed to be fixing? [11][12], The location for GBR's headquarters is currently being determined. Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. Eastfield TMD staff near Glasgow also embellished a few examples of the class 37/0's allocated to the depot with a lower bodyside white stripe in the mid-80s but were told to stop doing it and repaint the ones they'd already done back to the standard blue livery by the BR hierarchy. OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. For cost reasons, liveries were usually changed piecemeal, when coaches came in for scheduled maintenance. Free delivery for many products! Rail Express Systems was the sector of British Rail responsible for transport of mail and parcels traffic. Incorrect: Britain and Great Britain are synonymous, referring to either the largest island of the British Isles (in a geographical context) or the countries of England, Scotland and Wales (in a political context). Today I would like to make a rather general suggestion rather than something specific. [15], Originally scheduled for May 2022,[14] a shortlist consisting Birmingham, Crewe, Derby, Doncaster, Newcastle upon Tyne, and York was announced in July 2022,[16] using the following criteria: alignment with "levelling up" objectives; connected and easy to get to; opportunities for GBR; railway heritage and links to the network; value for money; and public support. And the more I see RA2 and its symbols, the more clumsy it looks. This livery was well received by enthusiasts but as the Class 56s only hauled freight, it was decided to extend the experiment to a passenger loco. I'm not aware - what are TfW doing? That's what happens when small-minded people look back on a classic that was before their time with a warped sense of populism. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. There are some good brands out there - gWr for example is a superb piece of marketing prowess, alongside the "friendly nostalgia" of the Famous Five advertising. The Blue Pullman sets retained their livery of Nanking Blue (albeit with full yellow ends) until 1969 when they were repainted in the reversed grey and blue livery. Here are his exact words: Hes concerned with the English vote. However many people were not happy with the loss of the traditional "historic" regional colour schemes as used by the former private companies. [13] Initially new locos were still painted in the traditional Rail Blue livery, but starting with Class 56 number 56084 the new Large Logo version was standard on new locos delivered to BR. No.47373 in revised Railfreight "red stripe" livery. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. I wonder if you could make a hybrid of the two? I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. Nothing to bring it all together. Official Description. This style of livery was also used by CSX Transportation. As built it was a sort of purplish-red stripe with a lighter red shadow, then this changed to solid red in the late 90s/early 2000s. Regional divisions will manage concession contracts, stations, infrastructure, and local and regional budgets, integrate track and train, and integrate rail with local transport services. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Lima class 47 D1574 British Rail Green Livery UNBOXED at the best online prices at eBay! Not even all yellow fronted anymore. British Railways (BR), which from 1965 traded as British Rail, was a state-owned company that operated most of the overground rail transport in Great Britain from 1948 to 1997. No.90021 in revised Railfreight "triple grey" livery, with Railfreight Distribution sector markings. Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. The system just looks like a disparate random mish mash of different organisations each running trains in their own way. Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. At the moment, the TOC mostly differentiates this. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. (Something that ought to give die-hard advocates of splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought.) This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. Just like when a new TOC has taken on a franchise, the old TOC name gets removed and the new TOC name gets badged in top, like a big rectangular sticker. Why do most people go for a car that is mostly all one single colour. A bit like this but without the fuzzy outline on the text and double arrow (caused by MS Paint's paint bucket tool): Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I had a play around with this, and I agree, it looks. Do you think we should use different colours for regions like we sort of have now, https://twitter.com/_doublearrow/status/1455113527954493474/photo/1. JavaScript is disabled. In October 2021, the Secretary of State for Transport announced a competition to find a location for the headquarters of Great British Railways outside of London. Another Class 52, No.D1015 Western Champion was delivered in another, darker yellow/brown colour described as 'Golden Ochre', though somewhat different from that applied to D5579. Whatever its failings and they were multitude branding was one thing British Rail took seriously and was remarkably good at. Boris Johnson has announced that Britain is to have a new public rail operator, Great British Railways (GBR), in the biggest shake-up of the country's trains since privatisation a quarter. Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. All Regions. This livery suited these diesel hydraulic classes, and allowed the Western Region to once again show a degree of independence; it was not applied to any other diesel or electric classes (other than the Class 42/43 "Warships"). Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. 1948 -. The Class 309 units worked between Liverpool Street and Clacton, occasionally also to Ipswich and Norwich and later upon transfer saw the livery briefly appear around Manchester and Birmingham. It will replace Network Rail as the operator of rail infrastructure across all of Great Britain (excluding some Valley Lines in Wales and some Merseyrail lines). Oct 22, 2021 All that remains, is to remember the man who made the Journey possible; the greatest engineer of all time and the architect who built modern Britain - Isambard Kingdom Brunel. I don't see what's wrong with Rail Alphabet which is rather older than the 1980s - to be frank the branding shouts 60s, a period of branding I personally like but obviously that *is* personal - although you could just use Frutiger to keep the tie in with the other large national service, the NHS ( who used to use Rail Alphabet too ). I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. You are using an out of date browser. Copyright 2023 Great British Railways Transition Team. Great British Railways (GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain,[1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. The British Railway official livery for meat & fish vans (and other stock which normally travelled in passenger trains) was originally crimson with yellow lettering. [8][9], A fortnight before the WilliamsShapps Plan for Rail was unveiled, the Department for Transport gave notice of a 6.5million contract for Deloitte up to February 2023 as its "strategic change delivery partner: rail reform programme". RM 2A03J14 - Sittingbourne, Kent, UK. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. 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